June 26, 2009
Michael Jackson and Philanthropy
As people mourn the death of the pop star Michael Jackson, fans, the news media, and others are discussing his charitable work, which some say paved the way for the current surge in celebrity philanthropy.
The entertainer supported dozens of charities during his life, including USA for Africa, the Make-a-Wish Foundation, and the Elizabeth Taylor AIDS Foundation. He reportedly was listed in the 2000 edition of the Guinness Book of World Records for “Most Charities Supported by a Pop Star.” The number was 39.
As a humanitarian, he is perhaps best know for “We Are the World,” the 1985 song he wrote with Lionel Richie that raised millions of dollars for famine relief in Africa. To honor the King of Pop’s philanthropy, some fans and small companies have pledged to make donations to his favorite charities.
Yet as with the rest of his life, Mr. Jackson occasionally triggered controversy with some of his philanthropic efforts.
In 1992 he created the Heal the World Foundation, which provided aid overseas but also brought needy children to his California home, the Neverland Ranch. According to Fox News, the charity’s work raised concerns when the singer was accused of child molestation. (Mr. Jackson was acquitted of the charges.)
In addition, in 2006, questions were raised about whether Mr. Jackson earned money from the charity singles he released.
On his blog, Jeff Trexler, a professor of social entrepreneurship at Pace University, in New York, discusses the two sides to Mr. Jackson’s charity efforts.
While there may be lessons to be learned from the way Mr. Jackson approached his philanthropy, “for now,” Mr. Trexler writes, “a moment of silence for a man who, like so many of us, gave as much as he felt that he could.”
What do you think? How did the pop singer reshape how musicians and celebrities do philanthropy?
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Why in the world would you quote the dubious Fox News about Michael Jackson’s charges of which he was completely acquitted? This is a closed matter and upon his tragic death certainly doesn’t need to be brought up. It bears no meaning in your story of his philantrhopy.
— Richard Morley Jun 26, 02:23 PM #
Re: the previous post, boilerplate copy is the sad duty of every credible journalist. Any event that garnered as much national attention as the molestation charges warrants inclusion. (For that matter, so does Mr. Jackson’s subsequent acquittal.)
On the other hand, I don’t see why it was necessary to cite any news source (let alone Fox News) about the charges. Mr. Jackson went to trial and this is now a matter of public record.
— lynne Jun 26, 02:41 PM #
i agree with the dubiuos recitation of bad journalism from Fox and the ridiculous reiteration of charges for which he was FULLY acquitted. Michael Jackson changed the world and generations of people with his sacrifice of his own childhood and his privacy so that we all could live the thrill of pure talent. Don’t be a hater
— kimberly Jun 26, 02:49 PM #
A gifted man in many ways including his impluse to be generous with more than his talent – with his treasure too. Flawed for certain, but a great heart no doubt
— Jon Jun 26, 03:05 PM #
Richard, justify it in your own mind but there is no denying that Michael Jackson was a pedophiler. If it wasn’t for the fact that he was such a talented sensation, he would have been put on the list with other child molesters.
— Stefanie Jun 26, 03:27 PM #
You’ve got to be kidding. OJ was acquitted, too.
The fact that this moonwalking perverted freakshow was held in any esteem by anyone is beyond comprehension. That he is considered by the nonprofit community as a model for anything speaks to the paucity of our values and our moral bankruptcy.
And, by the way, if you have the courage of your convictions, why not sign your posts with your full names?
— Jeff Steele Jun 26, 03:32 PM #
$26m in a payout for quieting an complaintant on a child sexual harassment charge is anything but charity. It’s blood money for illegal behavior.
The reason it’s important to note the ‘darker’ side of Mr. Jackson’s nature is because pedofiles use gifts and toys often to perpetrate their victims – only Mr. Jackson’s toys and gifts were of such a magnitude the world turned a blind eye – almost.
I loved his music and am grateful for the genuinely charitable acts he commited, but let’s not kid ourselves.
It’s best to look at the whole story.
— Stu Jun 26, 03:42 PM #
I think some of the posters here are missing the point of why the reporter mentioned the molestation charges. The fact is that while Mr. Jackson was very philanthropic, some of his efforts, and those of his charity, were thwarted as a result of the accusations and ensuing trial.
In my opinion, I think Mr. Jackson’s philanthropy came from a genuine desire to do something good for those in need: an attitude I wish more people in the public eye would adopt.
— Emily Jun 26, 03:57 PM #
So, Emily, let’s see if I understand your reasoning correctly. Over the years, Bernie Madoff donated tens of millions to nonprofits throughout the country. On the other hand, his little Ponzi scheme bankrupted many of them, led to several suicides that we know of, wiped out the life savings of untold thousands, the decimation of countless charity endowments, and an overall dampening effect upon philanthropy and the entire economy.
But his heart was in the right place, and we shouldn’t let these petty little details overshadow the heartfelt generosity behind those pre-arrest philanthropic gifts.
Have I got that right?
— Jeff Steele Jun 26, 04:19 PM #
He is dead now, but does that mean we should wear rose-colored glasses when we discuss him? Right or wrong, there will always be that question mark in people’s mind about him because of the number of charges and because of how he chose to live his life. What I do know, is I feel as I have felt before his death, very sorry for him. I do believe he was incredibly unhappy with his own self since he went to such extremes to change his physical appearance.
— Anon Jun 26, 04:21 PM #
I think Mr. Jackson’s philanthropy came from a genuine desire to do something good for those in need: an attitude I wish more people in the public eye would adopt. Not just in the public eye how about in everyone’s eyes.
I am sure the most evil of people had probably passed a dollar on to some cause but does that make what they did less evil?
How about the heads of some charities making 6+ figures. Just because (not speaking of Mr Jackson here) some people give does not mean they want to. A true philanthropist does not have a need to have anyone know.
God rewards giving by the condition of our heart when we give, not by how many people will think we are great for doing it.
Michael Jackson did worse harm to those children than he could possibly do with the money he gave to charity. One of his charities should have supported the mental damage done by pedophiles.
As far as turning a blind eye since when is that a problem? Mankind has let just a little more be tolerated till people get acquitted for murder, child molestation, and even sunk as low as allowing a president to redefine sex. Give me a break. If the media ever reported anything that was not sugar coated or stretched for ratings people in hell would not still need ice water.
Just because someone dies does not mean they deserve respect for the bad things they did. Contrary to some religions we are no less guilty of sin when we are dead than when we were alive. It is just most religions will try to preach them into Heaven from the casket. Can’t be done. You can no more preach an unsaved sinner into heaven than you can change a deceased pedophile into a an acquitted angel.What happens when a person lives like there is no God and dies and his funeral someone tries to say he is in Heaven is almost everyone in the room thinks if he made it then I won’t have any problem getting in.
Also there is a difference between what is truth and what some see to be truth.
If you are living like there is no God…You better be right.
— sandy Jun 26, 04:53 PM #
Michael Jackson, the moonwalking former child star who became known the world over as the “King of Pop” before his life and career deteriorated in a freakish series of scandals, died Thursday, a person with knowledge of the situation told The Associated Press. He was 50.I will not set in judgement over Michael Jackson, he was a great
performer, and though he was accused of being a child molester, nobody really knows if that’s true, or if it was just a way for someone to make <a rev=“vote for”
title=“Need new shoes? Try a payday loan” href=“http://personalmoneystore.com/personal-loans/quick-loans/quick-cash/”>quick cash</a>. I just want to say we can’t believe all that we hear, Hollywood is full of rumors. If it’s true, it’s in Gods hands, not ours. I say god bless his soul and my condolences to his family & loved ones. Let him rest in peace. I never knew him personally so I can’t say what he did or didn’t do. He paid his dues, so be it. Farewell to a great performer. I’m sure a lot of people will disagree with me, but I won’t lose any sleep over the way I personally feel. So say what you will about my opinion, it’s on you.
— ApplreP Jun 27, 01:42 AM #
None of us can judge the heart of another person, dead or living. However, we do have the responsibility and free will to judge the actions and words of others that infiltrate and affect our own lives. Michael Jackson may have had some talents (no more so than many other performers – BTW), but he showed me by his words and actions (contradictory at times)that he was bankrupt when it came to maturity, morals, ethics and being responsible (as well as monetarily).
Let it be known – I have one of the original vinyl records / covers of Thriller sitting on my antiquated tuner/record player and was just as thrilled at the time as many here!
Michael chose to live as he liked and has paid a premium price for it. That has nothing to do with entertainment abilities or monies he gave at times: for with God, you can’t purchase or entertain your way into His heart. Michael lived a lavish lifestyle and went into deep debt to do it. I see nothing at all to celebrate in this person: I do feel extremely sad that his life ended the way it did and when it did. But, it was his choice as an adult in this world.As a postscript to this – had he not been in the financial hole that he dug for himself, my guess is he would not have felt obligated to do a series of shows he knew he no longer had the health or ability to do. Therefore, he would not have needed that shot and he would still be alive.
I remember thinking a few months back that if he went thru with all those concert dates, he might not make it to the end.
Did anyone catch the seemingly contridiction where the concert promoter stated that Michael had 4 1/2 hours of med examination and was in perfect health – yet Michael secured a cardiac doc from another state to stay with him?
— Linda Jun 27, 12:57 PM #
people are talking about his molestation charges, but just curious if anyone has any actual proof of this? Oh no you don’t you beleive a kid and his parents who were blood suckers and tried to get rich of his eccentric nature. Sure he was odd, he was eccentric, he never tried to hide the fact, he said had kids in his room and in his bed, he loved kids and we crucified him for that. Sounds like the same thing we did to someone else 2000 years ago, he talked different, he acted different, we didn’t understand him so what did we do, we crucified him.
— Gary Fernandez Jun 27, 07:49 PM #
I can’t believe that Michael Jackson’s tarnished reputation is what we are commenting on all over the Chronicle of Philanthropy’s section.
Certainly he was a philanthropist, regardless of whether he also gained from his generosity. I have to admit that as a planned giving consultant to noprofits, I can’t wait to see what his will looks like and what philanthropic mark, if any, will come from his last wishes. It could turn out to be super interesting when you consider his debts and his children, and educational if he did some serious and well advised estate planning.
— Lorri Greif, CFRE Jun 28, 01:40 PM #
personnally I cannot judge Michael Jackson for
what he did in his life, because only God can
do that.
however, I would have never allowed my 12 year old
son to stay overnight and sleep in Michael Jacksons bed. I would have had a very bad feeling about it
Mike Stichnoth
— Mike Stichnoth Jun 28, 02:38 PM #
I can’t imagine letting my child have a sleepover with any other man or woman who saw him or her as a peer. I also wouldn’t accept any number of millions from anyone who abused him or her. I think the parents have to take some responsibility, if indeed their kids were abused, for putting them in an inappropriate situation. I think that far to many people, however, are sure of things that only God knows, and that far too many people get real joy out of seeing celebrities as targets for whatever darts they feel like throwing. If MJ was guilty, God knows, and so do a few select others who have yet to come forward (why?) Most of us, myself included, can only speculate and should have enough humility to acknowledge that, rather than speaking as if we truly know things of which we can’t possibly be certain.
— Maria Corley Jun 28, 11:09 PM #
Am I the only person in the world who believes Michael Jackson was falsly accused of child molestation by greedy parents who used their own children to blackmail a celebrity? Guess so…..
— ************* Jun 29, 10:45 AM #
just can’t help asking all of us this: are we holier? the person did what he can in this world and affected/influenced others so much they can’t help but admire him for all his weaknesses. The man is human not a god. and so are we.
— Erlinda Jun 29, 05:11 PM #
People should really put things in prespective!!! I believe he did the best he could with his life. One question though; How many molestation accusations were made agaisnt him? anyone..?
If anything, be made at his family, there’s no way this man should have died in debt!!!!!!!!!
— Chaz Sun Jun 30, 08:36 AM #
I loved Michael Jackson eventhough I am 57 years old. When I first came to this beautiful Country and I heard him sing with the Jackson Fives it was amasing. He was a great artist. I don’t quite understand what happened to him personally but we should all let him rest in peace and continue to enjoy his music.
— Lourdes Jun 30, 11:32 AM #
Michael Jackson was likely the greatest talent, philanthropist AND HUMAN BEING COMBINED this world will ever know. As he was fully acquitted on charges I never believed for a moment he was guilty of – which makes those that “choose to believe he was guilty of what was proven he was not” people that elect to see and think the worst in people, even despite proven facts. I am continually sickened by how so many in this world – and clearly in this group, as this post and comments prove(!) has just made me lose interest in being associated with this group – as if the majority here have hearts so full of hate they expect the worst of others with obvious titillated enjoyment as their comments show in their hot headed replies of excitement to the negative portion of this topic – which quickly became the majority after the initial topic to comment on was presented in an extremely inappropriate manner – which ought to be followed with an apology, and deleting all of this negativity that’s resulted,
If this is what many in this group are like – you won’t be able to succeed in anything philanthropic, and certainly not teaching it’s ways to others.
For some to blame the woes of journalism as the reason these closed issues were brought up during a time a great man should only be shown the utmost of respect is absurd.
When I first heard the heart breaking news of the loss of Michael, and speculation had not started on whether it was a Dr’s error, the result of medication, etc., – my thoughts were that he was always too good for this world, and never fully of this world – otherworldly, never fitting in – and that the countless people that took from him financially, extorted him and continue to use him obscenely for publicity (including or esp., HIS OWN FATHER!), that those people had finally broken his heart, it gave out after Neverland Ranch was destroyed – and he just couldn’t take the fight unfairly required of him to stay in this life.
I was a child in the entertainment business. I grew up with Lisa Marie for a time when I was a little girl. I went full force from dance into the music business as a teen, and was often compared to Michael by surprising those in a business meeting by being a soft spoken, somewhat shy (only off stage!), and reclusive – yet an intensely driven perfectionist. He is the person I’ve related to most in my life on many levels, and while realizing it’s the negativity in those unable to grasp the innocent simplicity of Michael’s desire to just be given an overdue chance to be “one of the children” I still struggle with their incapability to understand this. While this site is full of egotistical “investor’s eager to contribute their wealth to the higher good of others realizing their dreams, and being given the means to do great things” – it’s a widely discussed topic on how few actually fund anything, and use their titles to look good. Talk wastes peoples time, and wasted time in the case of my project means countless animals are put to death every day.
Whom here has personally given millions of dollars to feed nations of starving children? How about contributed simply what you could afford? Whom here has even donated your free time to spend an afternoon with one to give them a pleasant day? Whom here has the tiniest part of a child’s pure and innocent heart left within you? Whom here has any right to have made a negative remark about a man that was a rarest of gifts given to us, whom created such great positive change in this world? NO? Then HOW DARE YOU SPEAK, showing that IS your contribution: all talk, judging and slandering others, while contributing nothing yourselves!
Those are questions only the minority here that are not hard, embittered and damaged souls could possibly answer with honesty.
My vote is for this mostly horridly inappropriate page to be deleted, and a new ALL POSITIVE topic posted in it’s place with a request that only those that know how to conduct themselves and show proper respect comment.
This was a very upsetting way to start my day, and by the name of this group I’m new to – it was a shocking place to have discovered it.
— Lady Desirée Jul 1, 02:29 PM #
Sure Lady Desiree,
Censorship and deletion of opinions that don’t jive with your own…We don’t live in China or other such oppressive country.
— Norma Mazzoni Jul 2, 12:22 AM #
Censorship? Common fore thought and decency of mind, heart and spirit is what this group simply ought to practice. Since that’s lacking, showing a major character flaw – censorship may be in it’s best interest. As: if a negative opinion (nothing more) is held onto after it’s proven false by a courtroom of legal experts – yes, that OPINION to continue to hold the innocent whom was never proven guilty at fault – should be censored out of this forum in particular, as the multitude of wealth of various kinds given to this world by Michael Jackson is the TRUE ESSENCE OF REAL CHRONICLES OF PHILANTHROPY. He IS someone this group out to pay new attention to, and learn from all he did in his too short life. And: No, no – that wasn’t a question. You’ll have to take that up with someone outside of the world he grew up in, whom is less wise and a more entertaining sparring partner.
— Lady Desirée Jul 2, 05:47 AM #
I know Michael Jackson did not ever harm any child. He was like a child himself. No parent would ever accept a financial payoff in return from someone violating their child. They would want nothing short of death or life imprisonment for the violator. Now after his death, the young male in the case came forward and said his father put him up to the accusations.
Those accusations put such stress on Michael when he only had a desire to help people after he had attained such great wealth. People always tried to make him such a villian and an outcast because he looked different. If that is a bother to people, then they need to take that up with God as to why some people get vitiligo.
Joe Jackson had vitiligo as well and had it slightly, mostly only on his arms and MJ carried the genes. He wore so much makeup in the Thriller days to hide the white blotches on his skin.
MJ had only a couple of nose jobs and died with the same nose he had from the late 80s and the same sky high cheekbones that heredity gave him as all of his brothers and sisters had them. If his face were painted brown, he looked like an aged version of his younger days, but people have the nerve to regard him as a freak show.
He was a wonderful person and a true example of a humanitarian. I feel he was an angel walking on Earth. I weep for the loss of Michael Jackson and wish by some medical miracle he could be brought back to life.
— Amira Smith Jul 2, 12:26 PM #
And may Amira’s BEAUTIFUL WORDS that follow mine be the last spoken here. I find Amira’s words the exact message of truth that cannot be topped and the only reason more need be added would be for those that KNOW of the TRUE GREATNESS OF THIS GENTLE OTHERWORLDLY SPIRITS SPECIAL GIFTS, and have need to express it for their own heart’s grieving. IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A COMPLETELY POSITIVE AND RESPECTFUL COMMENT TO MAKE REGARDING THIS IRREPLACEABLE MAN/CHILD WE HAVEN’T EVEN BURIED YET, PLEASE DO NOT POST IT ON A GROUP CALLED “CHRONICLES OF PHILANTHROPY” – AND INSTEAD, RESEARCH AMIRA AND MY WORDS ON HIS LIFE AND LEARN. THEN HOLD YOUR TONGUE ON SPEAKING ILL OF HIM HENCEFORTH. People that think the worst like many here, raise their children to be ruined and just like themselves. Those that are different, look different, live different, have more, etc., are so often sadly picked out to target, and because of this – it takes a lot of strength, courage and conviction of your own individuality and values to not give in to the flock of sheep the world is at ease with, wanting us to become part of – save for their entertainment.
— Lady Desirée Jul 2, 02:27 PM #
At the risk/probability of appearing mean-spirited, I CAN’T POSSIBLY allow “Lady Desiree”‘s inane posting to be the last words on this subject. She, Amira Smith, and the other defenders of Michael Jackson (yes, he was indeed a freak show) are emblematic of the mindless celebrity worship that has literally become a pandemic.
— Jeff Steele Jul 3, 12:00 AM #
I unfortunately never had the pleasure of knowing Michael Jackson and my limited knowledge of him is restricted to what most of us have read or viewed over the years. I never got to talk to him, know how he felt in his heart, his beliefs, his feelings. We often are too quick to judge by how the media personifies someone or become critical because they are different. It may have been inappropriate for him to sleep with children, but I don’t believe he was guilty of molesting any child. It seems as though he was most comfortable around children. Perhaps it was because adults judged or betrayed him. He likened himself to Peter Pan, the boy who wouldn’t grow up. Maybe he just wanted to escape all the pressures and demands of his life or remove himself from the mass attention he received as a celebrity. Why he changed his looks was a personal choice for which he had that right. It didn’t change his heart and haven’t we all been taught to not judge others based on their looks or other physical characteristics? I think it is extremely sad that people ridiculed and took advantage of him throughout his life. I think he had a very soft and kind heart that was generous and genuinely caring about others, especially children who were ill, hungry, or suffering. He obviously has been one of the most generous individuals that has ever lived with both his time and his money. This and his extreme talent in the music world and amazing dancing, is a reason to celebrate his life. He was truly gifted. I think that is what we should think of when we think of Michael Jackson.
— dur Jul 3, 04:06 AM #
Mr. Jeff Steele —
— how perfectly you’ve conveyed my exact point of the kind of judgmental and negative mind that shouldn’t pretend to be art of the TRUE “Chronicles of Philanthropy” – I hope you aren’t involved with children or any that might be susceptible to your sadly all too common inclination toward inaccurate titillating negative false OPINIONS. From my 20+ years of lectures, talk radio and more – one of my strongest mottos has always been: “Everyone has an opinion, that’s human nature. BUT: you don’t necessarily have a right to share it.” I assume with you that would need to be explained in completion – but even if it were earlier – it’s no worth it. Your negativity is inappropriate – for this group, and in general.
— Lady Desirée Jul 3, 05:45 AM #
COMMENT #28, BY dur – - your being somewhat unfamiliar with Michael Jackson certainly in no way hindered your eloquent and accurate post that sums up his life, properly remembering him, et al. What a lovely spirit you’ve shown all you have. The world would be a much better place with more like yourself in it.
The sincere best to you, Lady Desirée~
— Lady Desirée Jul 3, 06:20 AM #
No one knows if Michael did what he was accused of..unless you were in the bed with him and the kids, you need to keep your opinion to yourself..Why are so many people judging this man? He is no longer here to defend himself so let him rest in peace. Me, personally, I think that those charges were brought up by money hungry goofies that used their children to get what they could from him knowing that he probably would settle. Michael was a true musical genius who did not fit in because he was not made to fit in..Most geniuses don’t..they are normally outcast and not accepted by most. My thing is, leave Michael alone now. He can’t fight peoples opinions anymore, he can’t prove anything to anyone anymore, and thank God he doesn’t have to…I’m so glad that some of you people are not God or we would all be damned to hell based on what you THINK you know…wow.
— the one.... Jul 3, 12:29 PM #
Thank you Lady Desiree for you kind words. Your posts are thought- provoking and direct us to consider the real impact Michael Jackson had on the world and what a loss it would have been without him at all. Someone asked me an equally thought-proviking question today, one I’d like to share with the group. The question was, “If Michael Jackson were alive today and you met him one-on-one, what would you say to him if he asked to be your friend?” I would say absolutely yes, but it wouldn’t be based on awe or wanting anything from him other than friendship. True friendship accepts someone the way the are, yet being willing to disagree without the fear of losing that friendship. I would not have judged him but would have been honest with him as I would hope he would have been with me. I would not approve of or enable him with drugs or condone its abuse. I wouldn’t be afraid to say no. Perhaps if someone had, he would still be alive. Perhaps if people had acted toward him with true friendship and honestly, he would not have had to feel isolated from the world. There are some that believe that some of us are too genuius, too gifted to ever truly fit in. I don’t agree. I believe God made all of us with a need for friendship and companionship, as well as a need for Him. It’s intended to support and encourage one another in life. If I had known Michael Jackson I would have tried to be there for him, to remind him of his blessings, and to encourage him up when he was down. I think he would have done the same for me. He seemed like that kind of person.
— dur Jul 3, 02:15 PM #
Yes “the one” – if everyone in the world would only know what parents should have taught them: “Everyone has an opinion, that’s human nature. BUT: you don’t necessarily have a right to share it.” -That saying from my lectures has far deeper meaning than what’s seen at face value, but corresponds with your post, as your post corresponded in many ways with following mine that preceded it. You clearly have your heart in the the right place: a good place!
Dear -dur,
You have such a kind and gentle spirit, made the way we’re meant to be but far too infrequently are: open of heart, mind and spirit; not one to judge but listen to and give support,and actually DO SOMETHING FOR OTHERS! Befriend them, be there for them – ACT VS. TALK – and talk positively and with uplifting words that give comfort – not unfair condemnation. Michael was never guilty. Most close to him or others that were close to him always knew that, Now the law has proven he was yet again and again extorted – just like the strange women coming out of the woodwork claiming to be the biological Mother of his children now! Like his own Father whom Michael cut out of his will due to his cruel, abusive and user’s nature – still using his unburied son for PR! Like Debbie Rowe – who sold she and Michael’s children for 5.5 million dollars to be removed from them, giving them solely to him. Now, upon finding she’s not in the will as she’s already been over compensated – now she’s going to feign interest in these children so the family just might have to buy the children yet again.
Everyone says Michael’s children are the most stellar examples of well adjusted, loved, highly educated, polite children you’ll ever find. I expected nothing less from such a devoted, loving Father.
Michael has given of his own accord untold amounts of money and time to charities and children – feeding nations, bringing smiles, pouring every cent he had into Neverland Ranch for his later ruined haven of bliss he created to finally give himself some semblance of the dream childhood he longed for, but was robbed of to be his Father’s cash cow quickly out of the womb.
Like ANY PROFESSIONAL DANCER KNOWS, there are injuries and permanent damage, arthritis and pain that results in addition to the injuries Michael endured. If we learn in truth his pain management/medical advisors were not properly managing his pain and insomnia, and if we learn for a certainty it brought about this tragic death as it appears – what an esp., tragic moment, as Michael had found happiness, pride in excellence and looking forward to the future again, coming out of reclusion.
I’ve heard the voices of some mouthing of, “Elvis was the only REAL KING” – well, as someone that used to know that family, while he was a pioneer performer, beautiful young man…he was THE KING of self indulgence. His concept of charity was to be yet another group of the endless friends he had to have around him at all times, telling him how great he was. So, his charities were in the family of buying another barely known person a Cadillac to buy their friendship. And another, and another. And a diamond encrusted watch for the near near stranger/new friend. My Father sold him some of these luxury gifts Elvis bought people with, and I know far more on the goings on there.
His was a true life of excess, and as some in the media are finally saying, “From Elvis to Monroe to Sinatra – there are sad and sordid details known of the lives of all of these legends, as there would be known of most people were they public figures. The difference here: ALL THE GREAT THINGS MICHAEL DID. Michael not only transcended all boundaries: race, gender, age, language, ethnicity and he broke them down – long before Barack Obama or Oprah Winfrey were names we’d ever heard of. His contributions and life are being celebrated by people all over this world.”
Yes, what an incredible man, philanthropist, endless giver, Father, artist, musician, dancer and performer he incomparably was – and what an incredible friend he would have made anyone blessed to know such a gift.
— Lady Desirée Jul 3, 04:21 PM #
Jeff Steele – you are so full of hate I feel sorry for you. Please seek help before it’s too late.
Right on Lady Desiree and Amira Smith – Ladies you Rock!
I believe Michael to have been an extremely sensitive, naive boy in a man’s body who just wanted to love and be loved. The love and recognition missing from his own father was directly linked to this. I think he felt more comfortable relating to children who accepted him for himself, rather than what he stood for. It is such a tragedy that he was badgered by the media to the point that he was tormented. This coupled with the family antics ie his father’s abuse, etc. I fear is what ended up consuming him.
Michael was a shy, kind and gentle soul, a person who wanted to do some good for the less fortunate in the world. He donated millions of dollars to 39 different charities. Oh, but some of you people out there think it had to be some sort of cover up. How absolutely absurd to make statements like this! What a bunch of cynical hypocrites the lot of you are.
Apparently Michael was not the type of person who ever said bad things about anyone – not even his own father who had abused him…. he would say….I don’t understand my father. He really was someone to admire and respect for his kind and gentle ways. But what did he get back for all of this. What a wicked bunch of parasites out there. I blame the media for adding fuel to the fire, for creating a frenzy of negative hype.
I don’t think that children should be forced into show business at a very young age. It’s not conducive to a healthy, nurturing upbringing that all children deserve.Rock on Micheal! We will never forget you. You’ve created quite a stir out there. Well Done!
Until we all meet again one day…for a huge party in heaven, in which I hope you will be performing for us just once more time…oh wouldn’t that be fabulous!
— Jan Rogers Jul 4, 03:00 AM #
THANK YOU, JAN ROGERS. You comment is perfection and in complete truth. AS YOU REMINDED ALL: MICHAEL WOULDN’T ONLY NEVER DO ILL TO ANYONE — HE WOUNDN’T EVEN EVER SPEAK ILL OF ANYONE. Thank you for adding that, as it’s one of the very most important elements of Michael Jackson to be known, ESP., on a group about the meaning of being PHILANTHROPIC.
Happiest 4th of July to you & yours, Jan. And dur & Amira. You’d all clearly be such nice people to know. ;)
— Lady Desirée Jul 4, 06:50 PM #
To lady Desiree: Your idiotic comments about Elvis Presley for me showcase a serious lack of knowledge and a vulgar ability to conclude incorrectly. Your views on Michael Jackson is the most naive bullshit I have ever read. Grow up, and check the facts before you conclude. You obviously live on a different planet, just like Jackson. Or?
— ivar Jul 5, 10:19 PM #
Clearly a different planet than whatever in all this universe you’re familiar with, Ivar the Terrible — thank goodness. It’s evident your “universe” wouldn’t be within the entertainment business, and – you likely judge all involved in that world as of another planet. Well, except for perhaps Elvis. ;) Myself? My family was connected with the Presleys personally, and you? And: no, no. That wasn’t a question.
— Lady Desirée Jul 6, 06:18 AM #
PS on Elvis…whatever planet Ivar is on can be educated on what everyone else already knows, by buying one of countless books about his life, or obtaining one of the many made for TV movies of documentaries on him, all of which tell the same story as myself, AS: EVERYONE ALREADY KNOWS WHAT I SAID IS TRUE. Priscilla authorized the release of some of these books, ad certainly has told the real story herself…you must have been orbiting about the Sun, Moon & Stars during all of that. Or…I could put you in contact with one his long term guitar players my Mother had to fire one of her assistants over for having an extra marital tumble (on both parties sides) with him after a show he played (which — though not allowed, Mummy keeping assistants, secretaries, hairdressers, drivers et al was one of the most impossible things to do, which made for one of the #1 causes of immediate termination. No, Ivar…you’ve been too terrible to put in touch with this guitarist, but LIKE EVERYONE ELSE: his story is the same. AND: LIKE EVERYONE THAT MATTERS — THE STORIES ON MICHAEL JACKSON ARE THE SAME. FACTS: ALL HE GAVE IN MONEY, TIME, ENERGY, AWARENESS – ENTERTAINMENT ENTIRELY BESIDE FOR THIS POST – ARE THE CHRONICLES OF PHILANTHROPY. The fact that this group has such a shocking amount of just ordinary negative, embittered, prefer to say something bad about another EVEN when FACTS have proven otherwise – or to call another a freak show because they chose to look as they wish, which harmed none and was their personal choice? Well. I guess you’re one of those that point and stare in public at those that look different, be it by individuality, disfigurement or deformity. And, it’s always parents that stare, point, giggle and talk about that person barely behind their backs that raise horrid children – JUST LIKE THEMSELVES.
— Lady Desirée Jul 6, 07:27 AM #
You are competely wrong about me. However I did not give you many clues, I’ll give you that. Sorry I can’t explain my points to you right now. I just watched the Jackson memorial on TV and I’m far too emotional now to write anything of essence.
— ivar Jul 7, 04:53 PM #
The Memorial sadly both reminded and cleared up what this world needed a stern refresher on long before this point, which is too late for the world to be made an easier place fo Michael, or for ALL HE’S DONE to be properly and fully appreciated while HE WAS ALIVE. Now, it will be interesting how long people can take the message of the Memorial – all of which were always Michael’s messages – and remember this simple acts of humanity and apply it! How long after today? 5 minutes here and there? We need a News-Nanny repeating the lesons reiterated on the Memorial drilled in people’s heads daily till it can’t be forgotten!
— Lady Desirée Jul 7, 05:02 PM #
Most charities ever supported by a freakishly eccentric pedophile. Congrats on that one MJ.
— Melvin Drosmeyer Jul 7, 05:42 PM #
While I understand people’s views, the truth of the matter is he was acquitted. Those he had to pay, hmmm I wonder, they may have lied, we will never know. And truth BE TOLD NO ONE WILL EVER KNOW THE TRUTH BUT GOD. Now he is meeting his maker and IF IN FACT something was done then Michael will deal with it with God. But I have to say,he was a great singer, dancer, person, son, brother and father. For those of you who want to forget him, do so. Those who want to remember him will do that too, which was very apparent today and will be for a very long time. I believe Michael to have made some poor decisions, but I don’t believe he touched a child in anyway that was inappropriate. It’s our own head and our own way of thinking that is perverted. He was good, we are all good….. let it go. Like Jesus said we must not forgive once, but seven times seventy. For he who is without sin, cast the first stone. We all have issues and shortcomings. Look to your ownself and fix yourself. We aren’t perfect and neither was Michael. But God saw it fit to grant him all he had and all he left behind. Now God has taken him home, for his work is done. Rest in Peace…as you moonwalk home…..CIT
— Cecilia Jul 7, 09:08 PM #
ON COMMENT #42 BY Melvin Drosmeyer – HOW DOES SOMEONE GET THIS PERSON OF COMPLETE DAMAGED NEGATIVITY REMOVED FROM A GROUP WHO’S NAME, SUPPOSED PURPOSE, ET AL, WOULD NEVER TOLERATE SUCH INAPPROPRIATE WORDS NOR AN INAPPROPRIATE MEMBER OF THIS TYPE — UNLESS THE TRUE PURPOSE OF THIS GROUP IS ONLY ABOUT HAVING A QUANTITY OF MEMBERS AND NOTHING MORE. AT THE VERY LEAST, THIS PERSON’S COMMENT SHOULD BE DELETED IMMEDIATELY, AND ANYTHING LIKE IT, AS WELL. PEOPLE LIKE THIS NEGATIVE, JADED, DAMAGED “PREFER TO THINK THE TITILLATING WORST OF PEOPLE” (WHY? AS YOU’VE NEVER HAD/NEVER WILL HAVE MONEY OF CONSEQUENCE TO CONTRIBUTE TO A CHARITY CAUSES YOU SUCH JEALOUSY AND SELF LOATHING YOU’RE SICK ENOUGH TO PUT DOWN THE GIVING TO CAUSES WHICH ARE ESSENTIAL FOR MANY TO SURVIVE, REBUILD & THRIVE? – WHY IN THE HELL ARE YOU ON A GROUP ON PHILANTHROPY PUTTING THOSE THAT GIVE TO CHARITIES DOWN? – AND: NO: THAT WASN’T A QUESTION. YOU NEED TO BE REMOVED FROM THIS GROUP AND KEPT AWAY FROM THE EYES AND EARS OF ANYONE THAT COULD HEAR YOUR POISONED WAY OF THINKING. YOUR SELF LOATHING AND ENVY ARE WHAT YOU’VE GIVEN AWAY. ALL YOUR “TELLS” HAVE BEEN SIMPLISTICALLY EXPOSED.
ALL HELP FIND THE WAY TO GET THIS PERSON THAT BELIEVES ALL THAT GIVE TO CHARITIES ARE SICKOS REMOVED. IF THIS ALLOWED HERE: I SUGGEST EVERYONE SEE THIS AS A PLACE YOU DON’T WANT TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH. SO? CARE TO LET AN EMBITTERED JEALOUS PERSON RUIN A GROUP FOR ALL? OR WISH TO FIGHT FOR QUALITY AND GET NEGATIVE QUANTITY REMOVED? OR – HOW ABOUT THIS: SOMEONE NAME SOME SPECIFIC GOOD THIS GROUP HAS BROUGHT ABOUT. I’D SURE LIKE TO HEAR IT.
— Lady Desirée Jul 8, 12:45 AM #
CECILIA! – MY MOST SINCERE APOLOGIES! I ERRED IN STATING THE UNACCEPTABLE POST WAS #42, WHEN IT WAS #41.
AND, ALL THAT SHARE IN MY OFFENSE OF POST 41 CAN SEND YOUR COMPLAINT BY LISTING THE URL OF THIS DISCUSSION, THE MEMBER’S USERNAME AND COMMENT # TO AT LEAST: editor@philanthropy.com & help@philanthropy.com – AS I HAVE.
I’M HERE FOR THE NAME OF THIS SITE/GROUP TO BE TAKEN LITERALLY, AND BE SUROUNDED BY THOSE THAT DID – AND PRACTICE WHAT THIS SITE IS SUPPOSED TO BE ENTIRELY ABOUT. NOTHING LESS — WE CAN EASILY FIND COMMON NEGATIVE TRASH TALK IN GOSSIP MAGAZINES, AND EVEN BY JUST STEPPIN OUTSIDE TOO MANY OF OU FRONT DOORS.
— Lady Desirée Jul 8, 01:26 AM #
For all of the judgmental self-righteous people who think Michael Jackson is guilty of child molestation – You may want to read this article – Was Michael Jackson Framed? by Mary A. Fisher GQ magazine 1994 – Although I am sure that most of you wouldn’t alter your opinion if the truth stared you right in the face.
— Jan Rogers Jul 8, 02:27 AM #
I prefer the company of animals over humans any day. After all of my 50+ years of loving animals, I have never once had sex with any of them. (gross/nasty/sick) That being said, Michael loved both animals and children. His world was far more public and yet as reclusive as mine can be at times. My father was abusive as well. Things happen in life that change us from who we want to be into someone who doesn’t know who they are. MJ’s change of appearance over time, indicates he felt this way. I know I have. None of us—not one—were in MJ’s bedroom. None of us are fit to judge anyone. None of us know each others heart, spirit, faith, desires, or especially pain. I’m grateful Michael Jackson donated both time and money to charities. God chooses leaders. God gives us our talents. If we all were to be in the public eye—more of us would be. With the negativity and bias posted here, I’m glad I’m in the shadows—and I’ll take my beloved animals over people—again—any day. Michael chose both human and animal companionship. I think he did the best he could with what he had. Let the man Rest in Peace.
— Paola Jul 8, 10:03 AM #
Right on Paola!
— Jan Rogers Jul 8, 10:49 AM #
Sweet Paola~
Lovely words, and animals are my Mother/partner/best fried (and only family) and my preference over people, as well, and our philanthropic cause that brought us to this site/group through LinkedIn.com. Save for those that will continue to use him – both positively and negatively – as we, that understand him already knew – and Dionne Warwick elaborated on last night on Larry King: “yes, much was brought back to people’s attention to force them to remember what all HE DID, but no – the circus won’t stop.” —were basically her words. As his Brother tearfully said: NOW THEY CAN FINALLY LEAVE YOU ALONE – while Janet nodded, mouthing angrily, “THAT’S RIGHT!”, it is so heart sickening it took his death to get nearer to that, but at least he doesn’t have to be concerned or attached to whatever some idiot may say that’s from cruelty – and almost all of that is always based on some form of jealousy.
I love you words, Paola, and the beautiful spirit you’ve shown you have.
*I HAD ASSUMED MOST OF YOU JOINED VIA LINKEDIN.COM, THOUGH DISCUSSIONS VIA THE GROUP THERE ARE NOW CLOSED, AND YOU MUST JOIN HERE. DIDN’T MOST OF YOU FIND THIS GROUP THAT WAY?
— Lady Desirée Jul 8, 05:05 PM #
I just happened upon this posting and it makes me VERY sad. I am shocked that on a page dedicated to philanthropy (which is what Michael SHOULD be called… KING OF PHILANTHROPY!)these catty discussions from haters are taking place. I am seeing so many loving comments here too! Thank you! To Lady Desiree… is there a site you can direct me to that shows your philanthropic organizations? Do you have a linked in profile? I will be happy to contact you with mine! You seem to walk the walk…
Love to all…and have a beautiful day!
— Amber Jul 9, 11:39 AM #
Hello Amber~
Thank you for writing a beautiful comment on Michael, and for giving him yet another exceptionally well deserved title. Yes, I “walk the walk” though my personal contributions are not at all enough help for the domestic animals in dire, DIRE need – now more than ever – due to out economic and housing crisis, they’ve been left homeless more than anyone. The state of CA. I’m in and anxious to leave has new inhumane proposal on the table to shorten shelter hold time down AGAIN from 4 to 6 days down to JUST 3! That’s clearly not enough time to find a lost beloved pet, let alone for some poor homeless baby to have a mere chance to get adopted! I am desperately seeking the RIGHT WEBDESIGNER for a very EXCITING & NEW APPROACH TO GAIN THE EARS OF A NEW AUDIENCE FOR THEIR AID! More can be learned on this & myself on LinkedIn @ http://www.linkedin.com/in/ladydesiree but, if my IMDB.com page (and message board, in particular) be read at: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1333682/ as my message board – which only a few are aware of, as I haven’t yet resurrected my mailing lists or fan clubs from my prior careers’ incarnations – but WILL SHOW PEOPLE THAT MY AUDIENCE IS AS DIVERSE AS MYSELF & WHAT ALL MY PERSONA COMBINES TO GIVE THEM. My audience also clearly has a special love for my cause: championing domestic animals in need of rescue. My MESSAGE/FAN BOARD IS AT: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1333682/board
And, thank you for asking for more info!
I look forward to connecting with you via LinkedIn!
The most sincere best to you!
— Lady Desirée Jul 9, 04:22 PM #
To Melvin Drosmeyer, Jeff Steele, Stefanie, Stu and the rest of the sanctimonious people – Here is the link to an article that sheds some serious light on this case.
http://www.allmichaeljackson.com/wasmichaeljacksonframed.html
If only people could be objective rather than passing judgement and continuing down their warpath, this world would be a much better place.
Michael was a person who did a LOT of positive things for this world, I am sure more than any of you people who are passing judgement on him have done.
It is not up to us to pass judgement.
— Jan Rogers Jul 12, 06:16 PM #
Jan — you could not imagine how I feel just now after reading the article you gave us the link to.
I am wondering if I have temporary memory loss returning from Vegas with a Summer cold, or, if upon learning of some of the primary names in this horrible, horrible act of life-long reputation damaging extortion – if I blocked out the involvement of people that had also hurt myself and my family.
Attorney Barry Rothman was 1 of the top 5 entertainment attorneys in the world in the ’80s. He was my Mother’s entertainment attorney, and then mine — before great, great trouble was caused by him to my family.
I wrote the whole story – but as it is not just my business, but my Mother’s – I have to pause on posting this without thinking on her feelings or gaining her consent, but — I assure you, everything I’ve ever seen, heard or known of Barry Rothman shows how he has the precise mind and heartlessness to CREATE the very plan OF LIFE DAMAGING LIES THAT BEGAN THE HORRID ACCUSATIONS AGAINST MICHAEL JACKSON.
I am also thrown to hear Michael Levine’s words in the article, not because I didn’t know he worked with Michael in the ’90s, but because I worked with him around ’98 to 2000 with occasional contact through app. 2001, and very briefly recently.
And, on top of what all I NEVER KNEW of this man/boy – Michael Jackson, I always have so loved, identified with in ways, most wanted to be friends with – and was most compared to – we share an auto-immune disease, though similar – not the same, as I don’t have Lupus (but a family member of Mother and my now non-existent family died of complications from) — HAS ANYONE THOUGHT OF THE PAIN THIS DISEASE CAUSED HIM TO WARRANT THE DESIRE FOR PAIN KILLERS, THE KNOWN INABILITY TO SLEEP IT CAUSES, ETC?!
Dr. Arnie Klein has now said the teenage acne that caused Michael such emotional discomfort was of a specific kind and that he’s sure it was early signs of Lupus. I had a first health episode at 5, was misdiagnosed with leukemia, my Mother nearly killed the wrongful Dr., and it passed, but throughout life with slowly increasing to permanent bouts – my genetic immune disorder made my later modeling career (nothing more strenuous) a very painful thing to do while forcing an alluring look to radiate from your face and eyes.
I have no idea how precious Michael could have withstood the pain that would come about after what – 2? 3? A few performances? And the chronic fatigue medication of some kind to give the energy to perform only makes the ability to sleep DOUBLY BAD than the disease already makes it.
Sickening. I knew the man. He hurt my own family till stopped by law, when my Mother had him barred from any involvement in a huge lawsuit he waged against us – his own clients. I’ll always feel certain he did what he did to us both out of continual greed AS WELL AS resentment my Mother ignored his advances.
I’m in shock. Shock of my own mind or memory’s failure to know – or recall? – the complete facts of the case you presented detailed proof of.
— Lady Desirée Jul 12, 11:13 PM #
Thank you replying to my post.
It really does bother me that no networks have stressed the immune problems that Michael had. I too have family (an Aunt) with Lupus and her daughter has Sjogren’s (a different, but often serious immune disease… perhaps related?) The pain is excruciating, and that is for someone NOT trying to perform! The side effects from the meds to solve one problem often require another med to counteract, MINDBLOWING! It does not excuse those that mismanaged his care, but shows why he was in agony and suffering from insomnia.This doesn’t even include the fact that many dancers I know have life altering injuries plus aches and pains related to their craft.
Honestly, how did you get through modeling sessions with the pain associated with your immune issues. Many of my friends are models, and contrary to the opinions of those who are jealous, IT IS VERY HARD and damaging work!
Sorry to bug you! Hope I am not overstepping!
— Amber Jul 13, 01:14 PM #
Don’t know what the heck that signature is, but the question above for Lady Desiree is from Amber! Thanks!
— Amber Jul 13, 01:25 PM #
You’re not overstepping, my Dear – I was sure VERY OPEN! My Mother & I are tested for Lupus every 2 years, as one immune disease can turn into another or more, and my Dr. keeps testing me for Sjogren’s over & over, but Mummy and I have plenty as it is.
Next question is harder – how WILL I BE MODELING NOW…
Imagine this…a hairstylist that’s mellow with “fitting in” my long, long hair (4 hrs to do) when I’m pretty sure I will feel up to the app. – either scheduled the day before the shoot, or – colour just before and style day of, and harder: a photographer that won’t charge me if I’d have to cancel.
I know both of their time is money, but I’m the odd pin-up that doesn’t drop my clothes for all photographers for shared use of free film. I pay high, keep control and work with one person as long as it works out. There’s also my signature gardenias and other fesh flowers to be ordered, skin treatments, ec. — so, too many really on me to NOT CANCEL. Never have, but have been rescheduled on. These days – this puts extreme stress on me I’ll feel I can get through it before the day arrives! And I’m done in for days after the contortionist posing is over. Looks sexy, and it does feel sexy through much of the strenuous shoot (handsome photographers help;), but balancing weight on hands to not squish your behind, or balancing stilettos on thin rails to stand on – tired and shaking – not so fun. We’ll see how it goes now! Mummy should continue her natural talent with the camera, me thinks! Friend just ought us a new one for this very purpose.
Sorry about your Aunt. My Mother and I have no other family.
AND: MICHAEL’S CUSTODY NONSENSE STARTS…TODAY.
— Lady Desirée Jul 13, 01:34 PM #
I am sure the custody hearings today will be one more ridiculous circus… with only the children suffering.
Thanks for answering my question… I can’t even imagine having a health issue set off by stress. That you still work so hard is amazing.
Hope you get all of the help you need with your animal charity. I will be keeping an eye on it and helping out too!
— Amber Jul 13, 01:55 PM #
AND: The custody hearing #1 is of course delayed fora week of moe preperatory squabbling. After all, it’s only an issue about 3 poor grieving children’s fates – why hurry? Money hungry mess.
— Lady Desirée Jul 13, 02:02 PM #